GCFISH
08-31 09:21 AM
Please do not spread a bad word about Indian companies. Infact 90% of us are working for Indian companies and we very much know we can not go with others due to the fact that experience or openness or waterver the reasons I don't like to mention here. I hope you can understand my request. Thanks.
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vivache
11-08 01:27 AM
Hey Gurus. Any answers :)
waitingnwaiting
11-16 12:20 PM
Report indicates that Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Rep. Nydia Velasquez (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) will meet with President Barack Obama this afternoon to talk about the chances of getting comprehensive immigration reform or the DREAM Act passed in the lame duck session, signaling the Democrats, Hispanics, and Obama turning their posture in CIR or DREAM from "defensive" to "offensive" strategy, by going forward with the all-court pressing DREAM or CIR during the Lame Duck session. For this apparent strategy, time is indeed short and running out. There was also report that the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) could bring the DREAM Act to the floor as early as this week. This strategy will push and corner Republicans to the "defensive" position in connection with the 2012 Presidential and another national election. For this matter, the Democrats have nothing to lose by pushing for DREAM or CIR during this Lame Duck session while they are in a majority position. Failure to pass the DREAM Act during the Lame Duck session will be placed on the Republicans, which are likely to bring about some Republican casualties and political liabilities in 2012 election. From the perspecitives of the DREAM activists, this is indeed considered a last chance and they are taking an aggressive position to take advantage of such political strategy of the Democrats. Let's watch how this political drama will unfold during the next one month or so. ww.immigration-law.com
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jetr
08-27 12:06 PM
My 140 is Approved from Company A.I haven't filed my 485 yet.
My H1 6 Yr period ends in Mar 2009.I am planning to move to company B and request a 3 yr extn based on my approved 140(with Company A).
My qn is what if company A cancels my 140?
If I get my 3yr H1 extn approved (before 140 cancellation) will my status be valid?
Thanks for your help.
My H1 6 Yr period ends in Mar 2009.I am planning to move to company B and request a 3 yr extn based on my approved 140(with Company A).
My qn is what if company A cancels my 140?
If I get my 3yr H1 extn approved (before 140 cancellation) will my status be valid?
Thanks for your help.
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itstimenow
08-07 11:06 PM
If all the documents are submitted - court related -- in that case are we good to go?
amitjoey
04-13 06:16 PM
We have some talented hardworking young men & women who are always on top of things. This group of wo/men are IV-Core. They know all the bills that are being introduced, and definately IV will support whichever one (beneficial to us) if/when it comes out (Either House/Senate). But the thing to remember is that there is a long procedure. Just because of introduction, dosent mean they would be on calendar.
Some of these bills are place-holders, some of these are just like pressure building tactics, and some are to please some big lobby (High-tech employers lobby) that "look I got the bill introduced", I care. Dosent mean that it will be on calendar. Lots of these so called bills, never make it to the calendar. It might be that one or two may get bundled into CIR.
NOW. The most important thing for us is to not get excited that this bill, or that bill has gotten introduced. We need to build on it and raise awareness. Not on the forum but by meeting our lawmakers. When lawmakers in all 50 states get some feedback one-to-one meeting with IV members, that will get them thinking. Some of them do not know that these bills are being introduced and mayget introduced.
It is our goal to highlight that this will help us, so when they go back they pay attention to our issues.
So if you havent scheduled a meeting with your congressmen, do it. Leave all the rest to the core team. They are already doing the needfull.
We should definitely support this bill. It will help reduce the EB backlog for us considerably. There are two provisions in this bill which if passed would help reduce the backlog a lot.
a) Exempt spouses and minor children of the principal applicant from employment-based immigrant visa quotas. At least half the backlog is due to dependents of the applicant using GC visas and this should reduce the backlog considerably.
b)� Exempt STEM advanced degree graduates who have 3 years of U.S. work experience as a non-immigrant from the numerical limit on employment-based immigrant visas, in addition to those who are deemed to have extraordinary ability, are outstanding professors and researchers, and whose presence is determined to be in the national interest of the United States. Another 20% of the applicants specially with indian passports would fit this category and hence thought would reduce the backlog significantly as well.
c) The most important thing about this Bill is that it offers some relief entirely for the skilled employees without associating them with the fate of illegals. There is very little controversial elements in this Bill. Remember the main bone of contention between Democrats & Republicans in CIR is about the fate of illegal immigrants and how tough an approach they should have on them. This might easily scuttle CIR this year and we might have to wait till 2009 before anything else comes up again. There is not much that the parties disagree on with regards to Hightech skilled workers and a bill such as this which offers interim relief has much better chance of being passed. Agreed some groups such as IEEE-US might oppose it (specially the provisions related H1B increase) but even IEEE-US does support sorting out the EB GC issues and backlogs and might support those provisions on this Bill.
In conclusion IV should definitely support this Bill.
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EB2 - PD Jan 05
Some of these bills are place-holders, some of these are just like pressure building tactics, and some are to please some big lobby (High-tech employers lobby) that "look I got the bill introduced", I care. Dosent mean that it will be on calendar. Lots of these so called bills, never make it to the calendar. It might be that one or two may get bundled into CIR.
NOW. The most important thing for us is to not get excited that this bill, or that bill has gotten introduced. We need to build on it and raise awareness. Not on the forum but by meeting our lawmakers. When lawmakers in all 50 states get some feedback one-to-one meeting with IV members, that will get them thinking. Some of them do not know that these bills are being introduced and mayget introduced.
It is our goal to highlight that this will help us, so when they go back they pay attention to our issues.
So if you havent scheduled a meeting with your congressmen, do it. Leave all the rest to the core team. They are already doing the needfull.
We should definitely support this bill. It will help reduce the EB backlog for us considerably. There are two provisions in this bill which if passed would help reduce the backlog a lot.
a) Exempt spouses and minor children of the principal applicant from employment-based immigrant visa quotas. At least half the backlog is due to dependents of the applicant using GC visas and this should reduce the backlog considerably.
b)� Exempt STEM advanced degree graduates who have 3 years of U.S. work experience as a non-immigrant from the numerical limit on employment-based immigrant visas, in addition to those who are deemed to have extraordinary ability, are outstanding professors and researchers, and whose presence is determined to be in the national interest of the United States. Another 20% of the applicants specially with indian passports would fit this category and hence thought would reduce the backlog significantly as well.
c) The most important thing about this Bill is that it offers some relief entirely for the skilled employees without associating them with the fate of illegals. There is very little controversial elements in this Bill. Remember the main bone of contention between Democrats & Republicans in CIR is about the fate of illegal immigrants and how tough an approach they should have on them. This might easily scuttle CIR this year and we might have to wait till 2009 before anything else comes up again. There is not much that the parties disagree on with regards to Hightech skilled workers and a bill such as this which offers interim relief has much better chance of being passed. Agreed some groups such as IEEE-US might oppose it (specially the provisions related H1B increase) but even IEEE-US does support sorting out the EB GC issues and backlogs and might support those provisions on this Bill.
In conclusion IV should definitely support this Bill.
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EB2 - PD Jan 05
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tp976
03-22 08:00 AM
I have done this myself and got approval couple of months back. There is no real risk of interfiling. Your eb2 application will for all practical purposes will be like a regular application ( years of exp till date, exp etc)
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ImmiRam
09-13 05:05 PM
Whom are you going to sue? Which 'LAW' did they break? Yes you can sue federal agencies or any government agency (up to certain extent), IF you can prove they are breaking law.
Unless they are breaking some law, chances of winning or even getting a class-action status are very very bleak. Not to mention, the additional legal costs involved.
Instead, like Pappu said, its better to concentrate our efforts on working with lawmakers....
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, just quoted from common sense...I might be wrong..
Thanks..I am saying or implying that they broke a Law..I am not an expert in law.. I was just intrigued by what is written on the homepage ""It is discriminatory to have laws that subject immigrants from 4 nations to more backlogs and the resulting hardship from such backlogs."
So from all the replies , it looks like Money is the main issue ( and off course effort & commitment ).
We are having donation drives here right? Need to get inputs from law experts and if they think we have a chance - why not ?
Unless they are breaking some law, chances of winning or even getting a class-action status are very very bleak. Not to mention, the additional legal costs involved.
Instead, like Pappu said, its better to concentrate our efforts on working with lawmakers....
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, just quoted from common sense...I might be wrong..
Thanks..I am saying or implying that they broke a Law..I am not an expert in law.. I was just intrigued by what is written on the homepage ""It is discriminatory to have laws that subject immigrants from 4 nations to more backlogs and the resulting hardship from such backlogs."
So from all the replies , it looks like Money is the main issue ( and off course effort & commitment ).
We are having donation drives here right? Need to get inputs from law experts and if they think we have a chance - why not ?
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eyeswe
02-11 06:23 PM
Sidd_
You can call your parents here for graduation. As someone mentioned an Univ letter will def make a difference.
However "sponsoring" is a bit more tricky, given that you are on F1. If you hav steady income GA/RA you can use that to support.If you have savings from your OPT, you can use that as well. the thing taht is tricky is you do have to assume a certain amount of expense for parents for the period that they may be in US and compare that to your savings, if you are the sponsorer.
Their rejections will be in the db and could be a bother, esp if you are the only child (not sure if that is in US or you have siblings in India). Your parents will need solid proof to convince that they intend to return.Something like a return airticket etc could make some difference
My 2c. As always my note is not legal advice
You can call your parents here for graduation. As someone mentioned an Univ letter will def make a difference.
However "sponsoring" is a bit more tricky, given that you are on F1. If you hav steady income GA/RA you can use that to support.If you have savings from your OPT, you can use that as well. the thing taht is tricky is you do have to assume a certain amount of expense for parents for the period that they may be in US and compare that to your savings, if you are the sponsorer.
Their rejections will be in the db and could be a bother, esp if you are the only child (not sure if that is in US or you have siblings in India). Your parents will need solid proof to convince that they intend to return.Something like a return airticket etc could make some difference
My 2c. As always my note is not legal advice
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Vsach
05-18 09:42 AM
I also got the magic email on Fri 15th May, 2008. I'd like to extend my sincere gratitude to all fellow members of this great community in guiding me through this tough journey. I wish all of you the best and will stick around to help other members out.
To you and the family! All the best:)
To you and the family! All the best:)
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puskeygadha
06-02 09:03 PM
I am a client of fragemonon and what does it mean now
my case was audited on may 21. They were saying there are 10,000
cases they filed and all are audited. What is supervised recruitment
?????
are we doomed?
my case was audited on may 21. They were saying there are 10,000
cases they filed and all are audited. What is supervised recruitment
?????
are we doomed?
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RNGC
02-10 06:32 PM
RNGC .. great work done by your little princes ... am eagerly waiting to see the letter ... guess when you post in the forum you have an option to attach certain documents like pdf etc ...
Sammy.
uploaded the letter...
Sammy.
uploaded the letter...
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sbajaj80
09-12 02:54 PM
No news yet. No checks cashed. I'm getting really worried now. Anyone else with similar delivery info please post any updates on the status of your application here.
Thanx!
Thanx!
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nolud
02-11 03:33 PM
I received a letter from uscis/DHS on Jan 28.
It was in response to my request about my wifes I-485 being in namecheck for a long time.
The response stated:
"The review of our records indicate that the investigation into your background has been completed. The processing of your case has been delayed because the requirement review is still in process."
Does this mean that the namecheck has been completed?
What is "requirement review"?
Did anyone else get this type of letter?
Wifes Case dates:
PD - Jul 2003
Interview Date - Jan 4 2006
Type - Family based ( on marriage )
Info Pass - Sep 2007
Last FP - Oct 2007
LUD - 10/2007 ( probably because of FP )
Current Status:
On October 7, 2003, we received this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS, and mailed you a notice describing how we will process your case. Please follow any instructions on this notice. We will notify you by mail when we make a decision or if we need something from you. If you move while this case is pending, call customer service. We process cases in the order we receive them. You can use our processing dates to estimate when yours will be done. This case is at our NATIONAL BENEFITS CENTER location. Follow the link below to check processing dates. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
Note: If this is the wrong forum/area, please advise where is this question best suited for...
Thanks to ALL
It was in response to my request about my wifes I-485 being in namecheck for a long time.
The response stated:
"The review of our records indicate that the investigation into your background has been completed. The processing of your case has been delayed because the requirement review is still in process."
Does this mean that the namecheck has been completed?
What is "requirement review"?
Did anyone else get this type of letter?
Wifes Case dates:
PD - Jul 2003
Interview Date - Jan 4 2006
Type - Family based ( on marriage )
Info Pass - Sep 2007
Last FP - Oct 2007
LUD - 10/2007 ( probably because of FP )
Current Status:
On October 7, 2003, we received this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS, and mailed you a notice describing how we will process your case. Please follow any instructions on this notice. We will notify you by mail when we make a decision or if we need something from you. If you move while this case is pending, call customer service. We process cases in the order we receive them. You can use our processing dates to estimate when yours will be done. This case is at our NATIONAL BENEFITS CENTER location. Follow the link below to check processing dates. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
Note: If this is the wrong forum/area, please advise where is this question best suited for...
Thanks to ALL
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kk_123
09-29 11:23 AM
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How to add spouse to my green card
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I believe, USCIS website was updated on Sep 21st 2009.
My Priority date is Jun 2006 and applied in EB3 category.
I got an email on Sep 22nd 2009 from USCIS saying "Document mailed to applicant". When I see online status, it is "Document production or Oath Ceremony".
I called twice USCIS to confirm it. But they are saying "According to online status the document was already sent to your current address".
I am in a situation to beleive it or not? to celebrate it or not.... :-( .....
And one more thing is "I got EAD before my marriage and I haven't added my wife to I485"?
If I get GC, how to add my wife to GC? is it possible? what is her status right now?
Thanks in advance... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
my brother has also seeing the same status message for his case.
IF you got your card, Pls update it.It will help others too..
How to add spouse to my green card
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I believe, USCIS website was updated on Sep 21st 2009.
My Priority date is Jun 2006 and applied in EB3 category.
I got an email on Sep 22nd 2009 from USCIS saying "Document mailed to applicant". When I see online status, it is "Document production or Oath Ceremony".
I called twice USCIS to confirm it. But they are saying "According to online status the document was already sent to your current address".
I am in a situation to beleive it or not? to celebrate it or not.... :-( .....
And one more thing is "I got EAD before my marriage and I haven't added my wife to I485"?
If I get GC, how to add my wife to GC? is it possible? what is her status right now?
Thanks in advance... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
my brother has also seeing the same status message for his case.
IF you got your card, Pls update it.It will help others too..
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ca_immigrant
07-31 08:31 PM
�Enhanced customer service tools including expanded Case Status Online with both email and text functionality.
What would be the expanded case status? like giving details what exactly is going on with case?
by expanded case status they mean that the case will have an expected date.
for eg, I am thking ofr my case they will say "GC expected in the next 10 to 11 years"
so see that is more information :rolleyes:
What would be the expanded case status? like giving details what exactly is going on with case?
by expanded case status they mean that the case will have an expected date.
for eg, I am thking ofr my case they will say "GC expected in the next 10 to 11 years"
so see that is more information :rolleyes:
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485_spouse
05-25 02:53 PM
Does anyone have recent experience with the Chicago office of Consulate of India for passport renewal. How long does it take? 2 weeks, 3 weeks, more than 3 weeks.
did it last month.
It will take atleast 6 weeks.
485_Spouse
did it last month.
It will take atleast 6 weeks.
485_Spouse
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apahilaj
09-28 05:04 PM
graj012, thanks for your input. You phrased it nicely.
Actually, I was trying to avoid kanhaiya's comments....as we say in our country, barking does does not affect the walking elephant.
Being a professional, I think everyone realizes here how to talk and what to talk. So guys lets not try to ignite sparks against each other...we are all here in this forum for a common cause.
Good luck!
Actually, I was trying to avoid kanhaiya's comments....as we say in our country, barking does does not affect the walking elephant.
Being a professional, I think everyone realizes here how to talk and what to talk. So guys lets not try to ignite sparks against each other...we are all here in this forum for a common cause.
Good luck!
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roseball
04-02 12:19 PM
Hi All,
My Wife�s I-94 expired on Jan 15, 2010 and I did not know that I had to apply for her H4 extension while applying for my H1B extension under regular processing on March 1, 2010.My employer also forgot to apply for H4 extension. Now that, it�s been more than 2 months with the I-94 expired, Can you please let me know what options I have to resolve this issue?
1.Can I upgrade my H1 Processing to Premium and add the H4 processing to it, so that both H1 and H4 are processed simultaneously?
2.If adding H4 while upgrading H1 to premium is not possible, Should I just upgrade my H1 to Premium so that I can know the results soon and have ample time (before the 180 days grace period) to apply for H4 extension(I-539).Is it true that H1B premium approval is risky compared to regular processing ?
3.Is it safe to go back to India within 180 days (after I-94 expiration) and get H4 stamping in her home country once I get my H1 Extension?
4.Should I just leave my H1B in regular processing and attach the H4 extension (I-539) to it? If attaching H4 is not possible, Can I file H4 separately and get it approved before 180 days expiration?
5.Once her H4 extension is approved, can she get her H4 VISA re-validated in US? Can she apply under �Nunc-pro-tunc� Category?
6.Does she have an option to attend H4 visa interview in Canada or Mexico as her Visa and I-94 are expired? If yes, is this better option than going to India?
Please reply.
Thanks in advance
Chinna
Just apply her H4 asap. No need to upgrade your pending H1 extension to PP (unless your employer is paying for it). Only your H1 application will be processed under PP. They will process H4 under normal processing. Both applications are processed under PP only when they are applied together. There is no separate PP service for I-539 application. I don't see a big issue here since not much time has passed since her H4 expiry. I have seen worst cases, more than 2 yrs before realizing H4 expiration. Like others suggested, no need for her to travel outside the country for stamping. Just file I-539 asap and go from there.
My Wife�s I-94 expired on Jan 15, 2010 and I did not know that I had to apply for her H4 extension while applying for my H1B extension under regular processing on March 1, 2010.My employer also forgot to apply for H4 extension. Now that, it�s been more than 2 months with the I-94 expired, Can you please let me know what options I have to resolve this issue?
1.Can I upgrade my H1 Processing to Premium and add the H4 processing to it, so that both H1 and H4 are processed simultaneously?
2.If adding H4 while upgrading H1 to premium is not possible, Should I just upgrade my H1 to Premium so that I can know the results soon and have ample time (before the 180 days grace period) to apply for H4 extension(I-539).Is it true that H1B premium approval is risky compared to regular processing ?
3.Is it safe to go back to India within 180 days (after I-94 expiration) and get H4 stamping in her home country once I get my H1 Extension?
4.Should I just leave my H1B in regular processing and attach the H4 extension (I-539) to it? If attaching H4 is not possible, Can I file H4 separately and get it approved before 180 days expiration?
5.Once her H4 extension is approved, can she get her H4 VISA re-validated in US? Can she apply under �Nunc-pro-tunc� Category?
6.Does she have an option to attend H4 visa interview in Canada or Mexico as her Visa and I-94 are expired? If yes, is this better option than going to India?
Please reply.
Thanks in advance
Chinna
Just apply her H4 asap. No need to upgrade your pending H1 extension to PP (unless your employer is paying for it). Only your H1 application will be processed under PP. They will process H4 under normal processing. Both applications are processed under PP only when they are applied together. There is no separate PP service for I-539 application. I don't see a big issue here since not much time has passed since her H4 expiry. I have seen worst cases, more than 2 yrs before realizing H4 expiration. Like others suggested, no need for her to travel outside the country for stamping. Just file I-539 asap and go from there.
PIndian
08-17 02:41 PM
Hello everyone,
Today 17th August, 2007 my I-485 packet was about to reach at Texas Service Center and unfortunately when I track my packet it shows �Notice Left� on USPS site, they mention they will try to deliver on Next business day. When I called at USPS , one lady picked up phone and she told it was PO Box no so we cant deliver. It is available to them to pick up but the man from USCIS might pick it up on early monday morning. Now I am worried does that mean my mailing date is Aug 17th or Aug 20th.
SO now USCIS will accept my application or not ?? Please advise ? Any body has same situation ?
Notice Left, August 17, 2007, 11:38 am, MESQUITE, TX 75185
Arrival at Unit, August 17, 2007, 11:01 am, MESQUITE, TX 75149
Acceptance, August 16, 2007, 10:09 pm, ATLANTA, GA 30320
Today 17th August, 2007 my I-485 packet was about to reach at Texas Service Center and unfortunately when I track my packet it shows �Notice Left� on USPS site, they mention they will try to deliver on Next business day. When I called at USPS , one lady picked up phone and she told it was PO Box no so we cant deliver. It is available to them to pick up but the man from USCIS might pick it up on early monday morning. Now I am worried does that mean my mailing date is Aug 17th or Aug 20th.
SO now USCIS will accept my application or not ?? Please advise ? Any body has same situation ?
Notice Left, August 17, 2007, 11:38 am, MESQUITE, TX 75185
Arrival at Unit, August 17, 2007, 11:01 am, MESQUITE, TX 75149
Acceptance, August 16, 2007, 10:09 pm, ATLANTA, GA 30320
gccovet
10-31 12:15 PM
I am planning to shift employers and I have a question:
Company A applied for my green card and I have an approved I-140, passed the 6 month mark and now planning to shift jobs on EAD. I have an offer from Company B with a condition that my offer would be permanent upon approval of my green card. I cannot work for company B till I physically have my GC. In the mean time can I work for Company C ( in a completely different field) till my GC gets approved without any issues?
I am sorry, I don't have answer for your question, but the AC21 cases getting denial will certainly effect you as you are planning to use AC21.
Please get the IV action item done whenever you get a chance. This won't take more then 5-10 minutes of your time. Thank you.
check out http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22182
We request all the members to start sending the following 4 letters. For your convenience the letters have been completely written including addresses to be sent � all you have to do is download following 4 google documents � add the date, your name and address � and send it to the address provided on each letter.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_1d3mzhr6c
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_2fp3nrhvb
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_3d8h2x7dr
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_4fxnvq9tw
To reiterate: You have to send 4 letters � these letters can be downloaded at the above URL�s. Edit the document to add current date, name, address etc. and mail it (regular mail). After doing that, please update the poll so we know how many letters are being sent.
To get more background on this issue and see what has been done so far, please see these two threads:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...d.php?t=22052;
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=21716
GCCovet
Company A applied for my green card and I have an approved I-140, passed the 6 month mark and now planning to shift jobs on EAD. I have an offer from Company B with a condition that my offer would be permanent upon approval of my green card. I cannot work for company B till I physically have my GC. In the mean time can I work for Company C ( in a completely different field) till my GC gets approved without any issues?
I am sorry, I don't have answer for your question, but the AC21 cases getting denial will certainly effect you as you are planning to use AC21.
Please get the IV action item done whenever you get a chance. This won't take more then 5-10 minutes of your time. Thank you.
check out http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22182
We request all the members to start sending the following 4 letters. For your convenience the letters have been completely written including addresses to be sent � all you have to do is download following 4 google documents � add the date, your name and address � and send it to the address provided on each letter.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_1d3mzhr6c
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_2fp3nrhvb
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_3d8h2x7dr
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqssdt7_4fxnvq9tw
To reiterate: You have to send 4 letters � these letters can be downloaded at the above URL�s. Edit the document to add current date, name, address etc. and mail it (regular mail). After doing that, please update the poll so we know how many letters are being sent.
To get more background on this issue and see what has been done so far, please see these two threads:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...d.php?t=22052;
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=21716
GCCovet
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